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    Schoolboy Football Teams

    Anyone here involved with or know any U15 teams looking for players? Local to Ballyer or Inchicore would be preferable

    Particular interest in the Bosco if anyone knows the situation there?

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    Has he signed for a club this season?
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    Yeah, does that mean he can't change?

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    Not till next season. You can only move before Oct 15th.
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    Dam it, cheers for the info though.


    If you remember, can you let me know when things are starting there for the new season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slavia View Post
    Dam it, cheers for the info though.


    If you remember, can you let me know when things are starting there for the new season?


    Yeah I'll PM you the managers number. Around May is time enough.

    As saintly rightly pointed you he can move now if his team is no more.
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    unless his former team have broken up

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    Cheers lads, his team is still there now so will wait for next season. Thanks

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    speaking of under 15s. kilnamanaghs team were kicked out of the league for playing a player who lives more than 49km away. was in tonights evening herald. anybody know anymore on it. am not involved in schoolboy football but surely this happens at the bigger clubs also?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DG View Post
    speaking of under 15s. kilnamanaghs team were kicked out of the league for playing a player who lives more than 49km away. was in tonights evening herald. anybody know anymore on it. am not involved in schoolboy football but surely this happens at the bigger clubs also?
    Yeah happens everywhere. Few clubs shitting it I'd say. Its really down to whether some protests or not. Must people couldn't be arsed

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintly View Post
    Must people couldn't be arsed
    Certain team from tallaght will put in a protest if they lose, pretty much gauranteed if you beat them your team is getting bone marrow tests and shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdjac View Post
    Certain team from tallaght will put in a protest if they lose, pretty much gauranteed if you beat them your team is getting bone marrow tests and shit.

    I seen a tallaght team draw Saturday and the manager and then a parent attack the ref. Ref was dragged into a passing car and whisked to safety by a forum member.

    I seen another parent who changed job to get his son to training last July. Kid was struggling at the level so the coach thought it would be better if the kid played locally (past kildare town) and told the parent. Parent then attacked the coach. Kid was travelling to training by train with the mum and the dad was collecting him after.

    Insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    I seen a tallaght team draw Saturday and the manager and then a parent attack the ref. Ref was dragged into a passing car and whisked to safety by a forum member.
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    WOW!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    I seen a tallaght team draw Saturday and the manager and then a parent attack the ref. Ref was dragged into a passing car and whisked to safety by a forum member.

    I seen another parent who changed job to get his son to training last July. Kid was struggling at the level so the coach thought it would be better if the kid played locally (past kildare town) and told the parent. Parent then attacked the coach. Kid was travelling to training by train with the mum and the dad was collecting him after.

    Insane.
    and then the clubs wonder why there isnt enough refs in the league, stories like this tell the story. I dont referee anymore but I was lucky enough in my 6 years of refereeing I never came across anything like this.

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    Im Involved with the pats 15's Slavia... If he wants to come down at the end of the season to the trials feel free.... For anyone that doesnt know what the rule entails its basically you must play within 49km of where the kid goes to school. About the Kilnamanagh situation, the Kildare league put in a protest about a player they had signed from Port Arlington, they were subsuquently expelled from the league, but kilnamanagh are appealing. They have aknowledged that they have broken the rule but they feel being kicked out is too extreme and that a points deduction would be the wisest option. The SFAI have it out for Dublin clubs as seen when they had the meeting all the way down the country on a monday night with only 3 reps from dublin they were out voted as u cud imagine. I know of 5 clubs in 15 Premier alone who have country players and are walking on glass. The rule is a disgrace IMO, denying a kid a chance to play football wherever he likes, whatever happened to common sense????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donohoe'd and Dusted View Post
    Im Involved with the pats 15's Slavia... If he wants to come down at the end of the season to the trials feel free.... For anyone that doesnt know what the rule entails its basically you must play within 49km of where the kid goes to school. About the Kilnamanagh situation, the Kildare league put in a protest about a player they had signed from Port Arlington, they were subsuquently expelled from the league, but kilnamanagh are appealing. They have aknowledged that they have broken the rule but they feel being kicked out is too extreme and that a points deduction would be the wisest option. The SFAI have it out for Dublin clubs as seen when they had the meeting all the way down the country on a monday night with only 3 reps from dublin they were out voted as u cud imagine. I know of 5 clubs in 15 Premier alone who have country players and are walking on glass. The rule is a disgrace IMO, denying a kid a chance to play football wherever he likes, whatever happened to common sense????
    You'd be happy to let an 8 year old travel at least 300 km a week to kick a football for 2 and a half hours?

    What about his education? Local friends? costs to parents? cost to family life if there's brothers or sisters not seeing parents half the week?

    If he trained at half 6 he'd leave the house at 5 and return possibly at 9pm from training twice a week. A child shouldn't spend half his life in a car he should be out climbing trees or cycling a bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    You'd be happy to let an 8 year old travel at least 300 km a week to kick a football for 2 and a half hours?

    What about his education? Local friends? costs to parents? cost to family life if there's brothers or sisters not seeing parents half the week?

    If he trained at half 6 he'd leave the house at 5 and return possibly at 9pm from training twice a week. A child shouldn't spend half his life in a car he should be out climbing trees or cycling a bike.
    I never mentioned an 8 year old. I said SFAI, meaning u12s-16s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donohoe'd and Dusted View Post
    I never mentioned an 8 year old. I said SFAI, meaning u12s-16s

    Even a 12 year old its too much with starting secondary. And is worse again in Jnr cert year u15!!!!

    The rule is there to protect kids from dumb parents and coaches who want to win at all costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donohoe'd and Dusted View Post
    Im Involved with the pats 15's Slavia...


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    Scrap leagues for kids...

    Done

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintly View Post
    Scrap leagues for kids...

    Done

    Game I was at Saturday had no league bearing. Two mid table teams who will finish mid table.

    I've seen killings at friendlies.

    Banning parents would help too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post

    Banning parents would help too.



    From what I've seen over the years at schoolboy matches, this would help big time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    Game I was at Saturday had no league bearing. Two mid table teams who will finish mid table.

    I've seen killings at friendlies.

    Banning parents would help too.
    Obviously there's exceptions but it'd be a start.

    Banning parents would be great but unfair on the decent ones who just want to watch their kids play

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintly View Post

    Banning parents would be great but unfair on the decent ones who just want to watch their kids play

    We don't see parents standing at the back of a class shouting at their kids to do better in maths. I know what you are saying but its very difficult when parents are shouting. Most mean well but it doesn't help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    We don't see parents standing at the back of a class shouting at their kids to do better in maths. I know what you are saying but its very difficult when parents are shouting. Most mean well but it doesn't help.
    As a coach I totally agree. As a parent I'd be a bit gutted if I wasn't allowed see my son play.

    I think there's maybe a middleground like a parent zone or something, 50 yards from the pitch but that's probably unworkable

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    I Coach in Broadford and this season we have started a "don't cross the line" system for all SSG matches (essentially rope off the pitch for 5-10 metres the whole way round. It's had a huge impact on parents shouting at kids (including their own)- now only thing you hear (mostly) is encouragement and cheers.

    I personally think FIFA/UEFA should introduce rugby style rules regarding refs (at all levels)

    It works phenomenally well and is respected by all, leading to much greater respect for refs. It's a big culture shift, but could be the best thing the game ever done.

    Re the 49km rule- should be 5/10km in cities. Pathetic the behaviour of some parents.

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    The manager should just turn around and tell the parent to ship up or ship out...

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    Anyone managing a team in tallaght and want a hand with training or whatever looking at getting into coaching next year whenever PM me anyways
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    49km rule is a joke to be fair and is solely based around greed and not the welfare of the kids.
    There should be no rule or the rule should be a small number 4-5km. 49km still allows the orchards stellas etc etc to take all the best players in dublin so is pointless.

    From a personal point of view I have been involved with Kilnamanagh since I was 7 when I started playing and continue to be involved as a senior team manager.
    I live more than 49km from Kilnamanagh and one of my kids has started in the academy at the club, there is nothing locally that they can join and I am up there every weekend anyway.
    It is ridiculous of anyone to try and tell me that my child can't play for the club I have been involved with all my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Noel Mernagh View Post
    49km rule is a joke to be fair and is solely based around greed and not the welfare of the kids.
    There should be no rule or the rule should be a small number 4-5km. 49km still allows the orchards stellas etc etc to take all the best players in dublin so is pointless.

    From a personal point of view I have been involved with Kilnamanagh since I was 7 when I started playing and continue to be involved as a senior team manager.
    I live more than 49km from Kilnamanagh and one of my kids has started in the academy at the club, there is nothing locally that they can join and I am up there every weekend anyway.
    It is ridiculous of anyone to try and tell me that my child can't play for the club I have been involved with all my life.

    There is going to be an exception to most rules and by the sounds of it you have that case.

    The 49km rule is obviously to discourage a kid traveling from Carlow or further to play for someone like Cherry Orchard because he/she or their parents believe that it will give them a better chance of making a career in the game.

    However the powers that be in the country also need to make sure that there is a viable alternative so parents and children can make that choice. If there isn't a club in a local area then people have no choice than to drive or commute to the nearest one.
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