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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimdagym View Post
    Jaysus, 19th. Didnt know we had gotten to such dizzy heights.


    42nd when Trap got the job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimdagym View Post
    Jaysus, 19th. Didnt know we had gotten to such dizzy heights.
    What was our highest? didnt we get to 9th or something under MM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caolan View Post
    What was our highest? didnt we get to 9th or something under MM?


    6th under Charlton in 1993, just after we qualified for WC '94

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slavia View Post
    We've moved up again in the FIFA rankings......Trap out!!!
    I'm sure if we had dropped in the rankings you'd be one of the first to point out how irrelevant they are.

    But, yes, I agree completely - Trap out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horeboy View Post


    I think Tardelli will be next

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    Quote Originally Posted by oleguer presas i renom View Post
    I'm sure if we had dropped in the rankings you'd be one of the first to point out how irrelevant they are.

    But, yes, I agree completely - Trap out.
    I can't figure out if your a wum or simply a begrudger. Never seen anyone so misguided in their opinion and so forceful in it. Now you can have a disliking to someones style but to call for his head cause he constantly disproves your opinion is something different. All the curves are pointing up.

    As a matter of interest what qualifies you to have such steadfast opinion that Trapp is wrong and you are right? Here's his qualifications....

    Juventus
    Italian League (6): 1976–77, 1977–78, 1980–81, 1981–82, 1983–84, 1985–86
    Italian Cup (2): 1978–79, 1982–83
    European Cup (1): 1984–85
    UEFA Cup Winners' Cup (1): 1984
    UEFA Cup (2): 1977, 1993
    European Super Cup (1): 1984
    Intercontinental Cup (1): 1985
    Internazionale
    Italian League (1): 1988–89
    UEFA Cup (1): 1991
    Bayern Munich
    German League (1): 1996–97
    German Cup (1): 1997–98
    German League Cup (1): 1996–97
    Benfica
    Portuguese League (1): 2004–05
    Red Bull Salzburg
    Austrian League (1): 2006–07
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    I can't figure out if your a wum or simply a begrudger. Never seen anyone so misguided in their opinion and so forceful in it. Now you can have a disliking to someones style but to call for his head cause he constantly disproves your opinion is something different. All the curves are pointing up.

    As a matter of interest what qualifies you to have such steadfast opinion that Trapp is wrong and you are right? Here's his qualifications....

    Juventus
    Italian League (6): 1976–77, 1977–78, 1980–81, 1981–82, 1983–84, 1985–86
    Italian Cup (2): 1978–79, 1982–83
    European Cup (1): 1984–85
    UEFA Cup Winners' Cup (1): 1984
    UEFA Cup (2): 1977, 1993
    European Super Cup (1): 1984
    Intercontinental Cup (1): 1985
    Internazionale
    Italian League (1): 1988–89
    UEFA Cup (1): 1991
    Bayern Munich
    German League (1): 1996–97
    German Cup (1): 1997–98
    German League Cup (1): 1996–97
    Benfica
    Portuguese League (1): 2004–05
    Red Bull Salzburg
    Austrian League (1): 2006–07
    What curves?

    I might be the only dissenting voice on this particular thread on this particular forum, but 1) I'm not the only person unhappy with the way he's running the shown - read the papers, 2) I don't think I know more than a man who has spent 6 decades in professional football, and 3) my opinion is not steadfast - I was all for Trap when he was appointed, but I don't think his work looks like that of a man earning north of €1.5m/year.

    Witness the performance against 10-man Armenia at the Aviva and explain this upward curve to me. Watch the 180 minutes of football in which we made a reasonable Russia side look the Hungary of the 1950s. Only Shay Given and Richard Dunne stopped us from conceding double figures over the two games. Where was Trap's lauded "system" then?

    And since you've gone to the effort of posting Trap's managerial CV, I'll ask the question: if he is, in fact, good enough to be one of the highest paid coaches in international football, why the fuck was he working in the Autrian Super League?

    Neither a wum nor a begrudger, by the way. Just care more about my national than Pats, Barca, and Melchester Rovers combined. And I have two eyes in my head.

    Last word from me on this thread. Maybe the name should be changed to the Trap Love-In Thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oleguer presas i renom View Post
    What curves?

    I might be the only dissenting voice on this particular thread on this particular forum, but 1) I'm not the only person unhappy with the way he's running the shown - read the papers, 2) I don't think I know more than a man who has spent 6 decades in professional football, and 3) my opinion is not steadfast - I was all for Trap when he was appointed, but I don't think his work looks like that of a man earning north of €1.5m/year.

    Witness the performance against 10-man Armenia at the Aviva and explain this upward curve to me. Watch the 180 minutes of football in which we made a reasonable Russia side look the Hungary of the 1950s. Only Shay Given and Richard Dunne stopped us from conceding double figures over the two games. Where was Trap's lauded "system" then?

    And since you've gone to the effort of posting Trap's managerial CV, I'll ask the question: if he is, in fact, good enough to be one of the highest paid coaches in international football, why the fuck was he working in the Autrian Super League?

    Neither a wum nor a begrudger, by the way. Just care more about my national than Pats, Barca, and Melchester Rovers combined. And I have two eyes in my head.

    Last word from me on this thread. Maybe the name should be changed to the Trap Love-In Thread.
    The curve is upward. 17th on the planet. Over 200 nations in FIFA. One of the smallest nations in Europe. We've qualified for the finals. Grassroots football will get a huge windfall from this in terms of participation. The fact we have qualified will bring years of reward on the ground in this country. UPWARD.

    You seem to be blaming our standard on the manager but not the quality of the player at his disposal. You pick our poor performances and never mention the good ones. We've a squad of journeymen and donkeys but you want Barca football.

    It's unbelievably short sighted to think what trapp has achieved is a failure on any level for football in this country.

    Regarding the papers. You'll find most of the opinion makers in the papers are either failed managers or never had the knowledge of the game to try managing in the first place. People like Dunphy who pretend to care about Irish football but wouldn't have a clue who played left full for the league champions last season. You mentioned trapp winning a league in Austria. How many of our opinion makers have won a league ANYWHERE. Brady in by far the most qualified of our pundits and who's side is he on?????

    We qualify the game in this country wins. The FAI now have more money to extend their UEFA award winning coach education framework. Facilities for kids will improve beyond their already excellent levels at some big clubs. Have you any idea what the likes of Home Farm and St Kevins have done in the last week alone? And all in spite of the fact as you point out our style is poor.

    The legacy of International success goes way beyond the international team. The next generation is already being molded. The Ddsl u14s put 6 past Man City last week.

    The game is booming at underage level and it will get much stronger because if qualification. But hay none of that matters cause we should be failing to qualify but easy on the eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    But hay none of that matters cause we should be failing to qualify but easy on the eye.
    Just as an underage coach, do you think results matter more than performances, or would you go so far as to say results is the only thing that matters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    The curve is upward. 17th on the planet. Over 200 nations in FIFA. One of the smallest nations in Europe. We've qualified for the finals.
    Just on this. While I agree with your side of things muppet, the facts are skewed. We are 19th in the world, and while that is an achievement in itself, and one I am delighted to see, we are only the 14th highest ranked team within UEFA.
    For any stat lovers, our Fifa ranking page has a mine of information.
    Linky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Just as an underage coach, do you think results matter more than performances, or would you go so far as to say results is the only thing that matters?
    Development is the only thing of importance in schoolboy football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimdagym View Post
    Just on this. While I agree with your side of things muppet, the facts are skewed. We are 19th in the world, and while that is an achievement in itself, and one I am delighted to see, we are only the 14th highest ranked team within UEFA.
    For any stat lovers, our Fifa ranking page has a mine of information.
    Linky

    14th out of 53 in the strongest region on the planet is fantastic with a tiny population. Football would have no GAA type of operation to contend with in most of those 53 either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    14th out of 53 in the strongest region on the planet is fantastic with a tiny population. Football would have no GAA type of operation to contend with in most of those 53 either.
    Again, I agree with you 100%, I was just saying there's more to world rankings than first glance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    Development is the only thing of importance in schoolboy football.
    Lets just hope they're allowed play when they grow up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Lets just hope they're allowed play when they grow up
    Believe it or not theres a theory that the biggest problem Irish kids have is the English academy system. The good stuff they are learning here is been coached out of them. A debate for another thread tho.
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    I started a new blog, The Patriot Game or: How I learned to stop worrying and love Trappatoni. http://thepatriotgameblog.blogspot.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by oleguer presas i renom View Post
    I started a new blog, The Patriot Game or: How I learned to stop worrying and love Trappatoni. http://thepatriotgameblog.blogspot.com/

    As always, feedback appreciated.
    brilliant. Get the thumb out and sort out a second one
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    Quote Originally Posted by oleguer presas i renom View Post
    Just care more about my national than Pats, .
    Here's some soap. Wash yer mouth out.

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    Up again in the rankings, to 18th

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    Hope he gets called up
    And Brian Kerr is in tears.

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    Howya lads,

    For the people going Euro 2012 what are you doing for accommodation? Have you sorted any yet? I'm going by train from Germany, if I can't find cheap accommodation thinkin of just bringing a sleeping bag and hoping for the best and maybe a tent. Don't have any experience of huge tournaments like this so don't know what to really expect. What are others doing. Cheers, Robbie


    http://www.accommodationpoznan2012.c...p?menu=1&lg=en

    What do people think of websites like this aswell. Dodgy? Legit?
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    there are a few dodgy websites alright. credit card got scammed twice. stay away from bookingscheap.com

    try the universities. they are opening up their dorms and its fairly cheap enough.

    http://www.akademikigdansk.pl/en/home

    i will put up the ones for poznan if i find them

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    Cheers, I'll watch out for those websites. I'm sure alot of Irish fans will be in the same boat, arriving with no accommodation.
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    A big game for Celtc today, and just like their only other big games, against Rangers, Stokes sits on the bench keeping it warm. Yet that muppet Lennon reckons he was gonna ring Trap to tell him Stokes should be playing in Euro 2012 for us!

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    Just in case anyone bought one of those limited addition match jerseys with the opposition and date embroidered on them......


    http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2012/...n-in-away-tie/

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