Looks like he is gonzo...by mutual consent apparently....need a new agent in there fast..
Rumours coming from the Renters...
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Looks like he is gonzo...by mutual consent apparently....need a new agent in there fast..
Rumours coming from the Renters...
Got what he deserved for his antics while still a member of our coaching staff.Its funny to see him fail but they could be a different animal if Fenlon gets the job.
That was fun while it lasted, Fenlon will come in now is the only problem.
Rovers had to cut their wage bill this season so fenlon won't be given loadsa money
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/irish...overs-manager/
Confirmed. I am dissappointed we may not be able to sign Killduff now. He seems to have lost the dressing room. I personally think he is too volatile a character to be a manager. He seems to have a history of falling out with people.
Bizzare timing. Assuming he was on borrowed time and the Limerick result was the final straw, surely getting rid of him before the window would have made more sense.
Don't think Fenlon would take the job unless he was given loads of money, and neither do I think he'd put himself in the frame for the job if it was a case of going through an interview process alongside other candidates. Unless he has already been sounded out, I'd expect to see someone else taking over.
I think Doolin's contract with the FAI is up.
Rovers paid crolly 14k to terminate his contract
John Gill always did fabulous work as manager of Malahide. I think he should be given a crack at the Rovers job. 4-5 year contract :)
He did so much for those that hate Rovers. Hopefully they chose as well the next time around.
They're looking forward to another year without European football. :)
Good work TC up until Friday night, you just made it TOO obvious what you were at.
Return to base agent Croly, agent Russell has been deployed elsewhere.:D
rovers running out of managers to sign up for a while love itttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
Have to say I'd normally feel sorry for a guy losing his job but after what he did to us in the cup final two years ago Croly gets no sympathy. You would think that's him done now in this league. To finish outside the European places two years in a row with the biggest budget in the league is really bad. He may have been a decent coach but it just seems he's not able to stay in a position for any length of time and seems to fall out with everyone he works with. I'm not sure whether I want Fenlon to get the job or not. He might win them a league or two on the way to bankrupting them.
All this talk of who has the biggest budget- I reckon the 4 big teams all have similar budgets. Everyone has 1/2 marquee big earners and lots of rumours over who is earning what. Chances are we are all spending similar.
As for Croly- he is utterly delusional if he thinks his tenure has been anything other than an abject failure. His talk of "systems" being in place is pointless, because for all their supposed "development" work, they have no entitlement to any of these young players who they poached from other teams courtesy of a "b team" offer.
The ex players coaching underage teams is a moot point and his tenure is riddled with signing his mates and using a large amount of his budget weakening others rather than strengthening his own team.
His total obsession with us was ridiculous aswell. If he finished 11th and we were 12th, he would justify it.
Total spoofer, not cut out for management.
I reckon fenlon is a shoe in, the only thing that would prevent it is if Fenlon want given what he wanted budget wise. Fenlon is a bully and Shams know he will push his budget as far/further than allowed to rt what he wants.
The only thing is, Rovers have much more resources income wise than Bohs and Shels ever did. Even if Fenlon was to spend big I doubt he would spend enough to put them in financial trouble.
Takes more than incompetence to be finished in this league. If he'd been sacked a few weeks earlier he would have been in the running for the Limerick and Drogs jobs. My own memories of Croly as a player haven't been completely spoiled by his antics in the last couple of years, and I genuinely hope he goes on to prove that the problem at Rovers lies with the club itself.
He'll be sitting beside Alan Cawley on Soccer Republic tonight. Sweet
Wasn't around at the time alas. There were expecting a bit of banter alright
Whatever about him trying to tap up some of our players last season, Croly was a very good full back and helped us win two leagues in a row - and three in total if you include the 2002 league. That shouldn't be forgotten. I still remember him best though for accidentally skulling a Rovers supporter in the head with the ball.
I don't think that was an accident. If I remember rightly he was getting abuse from them all game. His behaviour in the last two years towards Liam and this club has been as bad as it gets and undoes everything he achieved here as a player for me. Just watched the recording of Soccer Republic and he comes across as a bit deluded. Everything was great until the last 3 weeks and they've the 4th highest budget in the league. Must be great being in his head.
Leaving your club for their bitterest rivals in the middle of cup final preparations, especially when there is such a huge significance to the cup like with Pat's, is simply unforgivable. Whatever he did in the past is irrelevant. Sorry Trevor, you were the sweetest kid but you grew up to be an absolute cunt.
Fenlon appointed this morning according to Extratime.ie.
Scary to think of the budget he will be given/take.
Fenlon in known for bullying his way through boards of directors, causing splits between prudence and success. he will usually alienate the board of they dont give him what he wants.
On the other side, he is probably the biggest managerial draw in the league - with a budget there is no better man to use it. Shams have access to revenue (and potential revenue) most others dont and I ahve no doubt he wouldnt have gone near the position if he didnt have cast iron guarantees over his budget.
We can expect a fight for a good few of our squad to go this summer if he comes sniffing - like him or loath him- he is a winner, and a winner with a wad of cash.
It will be interesting to see how he does this time around. He did have a nucleus of players he built his success around at Shels and Bohs, ie. Heary, Byrne, Hawkins, Crowe etc. It's not guaranteed success if they are not giving him the cheque book the way he got it from Shels and Bohs. If they do give him the cheque book, we know how that will end up.
Agent Fenlon.....in place
Operation bankrupt Shels and Bohs .....complete
Operation bankrupt the filth .... commencing
Croly says that Rovers has the 4th highest budget this season. If that is be be believed, then ourselves, Dundalk and Sligo spent more money. It is therefore reasonable to assume that a good bit of the Juventus/Europa League run money is gone and was spent on player large salaries and the large squad they have had over the last three seasons. Their crowds have certainly fallen, so maybe the novelty of the whole Tallaght thing starting to wear off. If Fenlon doesn't qualify for European football this season, there is no guarantee he'll be given the huge bugdet next season. If by the end of next season he is in Croly's situation whereby they can't win the league, I have no doubt their impatient supporters will have the knives out again.
I'd be surprised if any of our current squad that we want to hold onto leave for rovers. Our budget has been very competitive the last few seasons and I'd reckon we made more money from Europe this year than any other year. I'd also be surprised if Fahey hangs around beyond this season so that will free up a big chunk of wages.
In saying that if we don't make Europe this year things will be different
I'd be surprised if Fagan and Forrester signed for any other LOI club. They could well leave to go abroad but they'll stay if not. I'd reckon Bermo is one of our highest earners and we would match anything rovers would offer to keep him. Money is the main issue with all of them, if were offering a good wage along with European football and a starting place they'll stay.
Bolger would be a worry as I can't imagine hes too happy with the way this season has gone.
Fahey hasn't worked out as well as he or the club expected, he probably won't have options here that will pay the wages he wants so could well head elsewhere
I reckon Fats could struggle to get a gig- as you said, not many places would pay his wages and at his age (32 in January) he is unlikely to be in demand in the UK.
Bolger is a strange one - he had a good season with UCD, but for all intents and purposes has been a failure everywhere else. he had aon OK season in 2012 (most of us wuldnt have blinked if he left) and was great last year. I think he could regret a move to shams if it ever went that way.
As you said- we pay relatively good wages and treat the guys well. they play a good brand of football, and as a bunch of fans, we arent anywhere near as critical of failure as other fans.
it all boils down to what €€ we offer - but as I said, Fenlon doesnt manage team in irealnd simply to compete- he would not go back to Shams unless they gave him a very very healthy budget.
Even if he has money to throw around he can't simply follow his Shels/Bohs blueprint of cherry picking the biggest names from rival clubs and expect success. In lots of cases the gap in ability between a given player at a top club and his counterpart at a rival club is now negligible. When he poached Hawkins, Crowe and Ryan, for instance, he decimated Bohs because those players were a cut above any replacements they could possibly sign - not in terms of form or opinion, they just had far more ability.
Let's say Rovers signed Fagan and Forrester, two payers he has worked with before. Fagan has been a revelation this year after taking a step backwards last year, but leaving aside form, purely in terms of ability there's little to split him and at least half a dozen other strikers in the league. There weren't half a dozen strikers as good as Crowe or Byrne in the league a decade ago. Likewise with Forrester. For all his talent, he blows hot and cold, and looked at objectively someone like Billy Dennehy is probably a more effective footballer. Darren Meenan had a better season than him last year. Not that I'd want to see either of them leave.
The point is, personnel is not the be all and end all.
I agree that personnel isn't the be all and end all but Fenlon is a very good manager on top of that as well. I believe if you gave him our job, the Dundalk job or the Rovers job at the start of this season he still would have won the league without spending.